Frankie Gavin - European Level Awaits
Frankie Gavin vs Jason Welborn : British Welterweight Title
Fighting at a very loud Walsall Town Hall, Frankie Gavin produced a punch perfect performance as he dominated over matched Jason Welborn over seven rounds. The former World Amature champion must now be looking at a higher level of opposition as he easily took apart his game but limited opponent. Welborn to his credit tried hard even landing the odd straight right early in the fight. It was to have no effect on the fight as Gavin countered perfectly from his southpaw stance landing quick and eventually hurtful combinations.
There was a maturity about Frankie Gavin tonight. Welborn constantly came forward trying to bull his way in at every opportunity. Gavin though was in fine form as he was able to stay in punching range slipping Welborns punches and lading his quick combinations. The straight left to the body was the opener for Gavin. Many times it was start point for his attack as he peppered Welborn round after round. The footwork was certainly impressive, Welborn after round 3 just could not land anything of note.
Welborn began tiring in the 4th as Gavin's precise body work was beginning to take effect. The 5th round was the quietest of the round, Gavin was still boxing, moving, pecking away at welborn wearing him down. In the 6th it was the beginning of the end as Birmingham man Gavin started to plant his feet and land those solid lefts to the body. It was that exact punch in the 7th that floored Welborn as he moved in close. Gavin timed the Tividale man perfectly with a quick straight left. Welborn was hurt. Stunned Welborn took the eight count from referee Ian John Lewis and bravely continued. It wasn't long before Gavin went for the kill pushing Welborn to the ropes and landing multiple punches. Ian John Lewis had saw enough and jumped in to save Welborn. A good stoppage from a ref who has been under the microscope recently. The time was 2.35 of the seventh round. Winner and sill British welterweight champion Frankie Gavin.
So what does the future hold for Frankie Gavin. In the build up to the fight Gavin mentioned that only Commonwealth champion Denton Vassell could tempt him into an all British affair. Kell Brook was also mentioned although correctly Frankie said that Kell was more experienced and at another level from him.......AT THE MOMENT. In his post fight interview Gavin mentioned the possibility of a European title shot, currently held by Italian 38 year old Leonard Bundu who has been champion since 2011. Personally i think this is a great fight especially if Frank Warren can get the Italian over to the UK. It would also begin to open door to the world level, something that many on the boxing forums feel Frankie should be fighting at NOW.
Frankie Gavin now moves to 15-0 (11Ko's), Welborn who will be back falls to 11-2 with 5 early wins.
Below is my scorecard along with the Press and fans scores i was able to gather for this fight
Fightscorecollector's Scorecard
Round 1.... 10-9 Gavin
Round 2.... 10-9 Gavin
Round 3.... 10-9 Gavin
Round 4.... 10-9 Gavin
Round 5.... 10-9 Gavin
Round 6.... 10-9 Gavin
Total : 60-54 Frankie Gavin at the time of stoppage
Boxing Press and Fan Scores
Fightersrated : 60-54 Gavin
BoxingOpinions : 60-54 Gavin
Daniel Vano (Checkhookboxing) : 60-54 Gavin
Mathew Mojica (Thefightsource) : 60-54 Gavin
John Rawling (Boxnation) : 60-54 Gavin
Barrie Jones (Boxnation) : 60-54 Gavin
Anthony Crolla (Boxnation) : 60-54 Gavin
Steve Bunce (Boxnation) : 60-54 Gavin
Fight Ghost : 60-54 Gavin
Tommy Allan (Boxingasylum) : 60-54 Gavin
LiveFight.com : 60-54 Gavin
Corey Quincey (Saddoboxing) : 60-53 Gavin
Chris Maylett (British Boxers) : 60-54 Gavin
Alexey Sukachev (Boxingscene) : 60-54 Gavin
Boxing Asylum Forum : 2x 60-54 Gavin
LiveFight Forum : 2x 60-54 Gavin , 60-55 Gavin
Ringnews24 Forum : 1x 60-54 Gavin
Eastsideboxing Forum 1x 60-54 Gavin
Boxingscene Forum : 1x 60-54 Gavin
Alex B (Twitter Fan) : 60-54 Gavin
Craig Hutchison (Twitter Fan) : 60-54 Gavin
Friday, 18 January 2013
Sunday, 6 January 2013
Fighscorecollector's January 2013 Fight List
Back for another year covering the fights here in the UK and abroad, Fightscorecollector returns for its 2nd year after a very successful first year. Ive been on a few boxing pod casts, mentioned on the Steve Bunce Boxing show, asked to collect scores from established top writers such as Thomas Hauser. Ive also met so many of the top boxing fighters, reporters and fans. My site had over 18 thousand hits last year, For a growing site I didn't expect that although after a slow start I was aiming for 1 thousand a month .Last year I covered 41 fights, not bad?. I'm very sure I would have easily have broken 25 thousand views if I never had a stag doo, got married and missed a few fights due to excuse my French.. fecking computer problems eg: 3 hours of the Hatton fight scoring lost when computer crashed. OH and did I mention my daughter being born in May, saying that I had an excuse to get up and watch the fights Stateside.
This year I'm aiming higher, I will be attending more shows here in Scotland and I aim to get down to more bills down south starting with the Price vs Thompson fight in Liverpool on Feb 23. I will be posting more articles about my memories of old fights, my thoughts on the current scene AND of course providing the fans with the chance to see how the press and fans from all the best boxing websites scored the biggest fights throughout the year.
Now before I list the fights I'm covering in January, I want to thank all the writers who have taken time to give me some pointers but to also all the fans who post on the 12-13 forums where I collect my scores. Please please keep posting your scores. Thank you.
January has already started with a bad decision, Rances Barthelemy won a disputed 12 round decision over Afghan Usmanee on ESPN FNFs. Teddy Atlas scoring for the TV station had Usmanee winning 117-111, I had it closer 115-113 Usmanee although many scores posted to me on twitter had Usmanee winning 116-112.
The month of January is always a slow month for boxing and in 2013 it is no different as I will only be covering 2 fights. If James Degale gets an opponent listed for his fight on the 26th of the month then I will cover his fight too.
Below is the short list for January 2013 -
Fri 18th Jan - Boxnation - Frankie Gavin vs Jason Welborn - British Light Welter Title
Sat 19th Jan - HBO - Orlando Salido vs Miguel Angel Garcia - WBO Featherweight Title
Back for another year covering the fights here in the UK and abroad, Fightscorecollector returns for its 2nd year after a very successful first year. Ive been on a few boxing pod casts, mentioned on the Steve Bunce Boxing show, asked to collect scores from established top writers such as Thomas Hauser. Ive also met so many of the top boxing fighters, reporters and fans. My site had over 18 thousand hits last year, For a growing site I didn't expect that although after a slow start I was aiming for 1 thousand a month .Last year I covered 41 fights, not bad?. I'm very sure I would have easily have broken 25 thousand views if I never had a stag doo, got married and missed a few fights due to excuse my French.. fecking computer problems eg: 3 hours of the Hatton fight scoring lost when computer crashed. OH and did I mention my daughter being born in May, saying that I had an excuse to get up and watch the fights Stateside.
This year I'm aiming higher, I will be attending more shows here in Scotland and I aim to get down to more bills down south starting with the Price vs Thompson fight in Liverpool on Feb 23. I will be posting more articles about my memories of old fights, my thoughts on the current scene AND of course providing the fans with the chance to see how the press and fans from all the best boxing websites scored the biggest fights throughout the year.
Now before I list the fights I'm covering in January, I want to thank all the writers who have taken time to give me some pointers but to also all the fans who post on the 12-13 forums where I collect my scores. Please please keep posting your scores. Thank you.
January has already started with a bad decision, Rances Barthelemy won a disputed 12 round decision over Afghan Usmanee on ESPN FNFs. Teddy Atlas scoring for the TV station had Usmanee winning 117-111, I had it closer 115-113 Usmanee although many scores posted to me on twitter had Usmanee winning 116-112.
The month of January is always a slow month for boxing and in 2013 it is no different as I will only be covering 2 fights. If James Degale gets an opponent listed for his fight on the 26th of the month then I will cover his fight too.
Below is the short list for January 2013 -
Fri 18th Jan - Boxnation - Frankie Gavin vs Jason Welborn - British Light Welter Title
Sat 19th Jan - HBO - Orlando Salido vs Miguel Angel Garcia - WBO Featherweight Title
Friday, 28 December 2012
Adamek - Cunningham Scorecard
Finally got the chance to watch the Adamek-Cunningam fight today. So many people beforehand had asked me my score and if i could collect scores for the fight. In my last article i was able to collect 98 scores from the Press and the Fans. I would probably have got more but i was at work in the middle of a 12 hour shift. My results showed that the vast majority had Steve Cunningham winning the fight. Of the 98 scores, 85 scored for Cunningham, 9 for Adamek and 4 a draw.
Now that i have watched the fight, i am in that vast majority that thought Cunningham won the fight. My scorecard of 116-113 (7-4-1 in rounds) is below. I cannot see how Adamek was given the decision. The only thing that could have happened is the flurries at the end of most rounds by Adamek must have fooled the judges into scoring the round for him. I'm sorry but fighting and landing only in the last 30-20 seconds of the round doesn't win you the fight especially when Cunningham was landing his jab followed by numerous right hand throughout the fight. Adamek merely followed Cunningham around for too much of the fight landing nothing of note. The rounds that Adamek won, it was clear that the Pole upped his work rate and actually matched his lighter opponent. The opening round was the only round where i scored a 10-10. It was a quiet round with the only scoring punches landed by the Cunningham jab. Adamek did land a few hooks in the last 20 seconds of the round. This is what swayed me to score 10-10, it was a quiet round where one flurry could alter the scoring of the round.
I will be writing one final article in 2012. The 3 worst decisions of the year. The Cunningham-Adamek fight will not be there. It came in a close 4th.
FIGHTSCORECOLLECTOR'S SCORECARD
Round 1.... 10-10 Draw
Round 2.... 10-9 Cunningham
Round 3.... 10-9 Cunningham
Round 4.... 10-9 Cunningham
Round 5.... 9-10 Adamek
Round 6.... 9-10 Adamek
Round 7.... 10-9 Cunningham
Round 8.... 10-9 Cunningham
Round 9.... 10-9 Cunningham
Round 10.. 10-9 Cunningham
Round 11.. 9-10 Adamek
Round 12.. 9-10 Adamek
Total : 116-113 Cunningham
Finally got the chance to watch the Adamek-Cunningam fight today. So many people beforehand had asked me my score and if i could collect scores for the fight. In my last article i was able to collect 98 scores from the Press and the Fans. I would probably have got more but i was at work in the middle of a 12 hour shift. My results showed that the vast majority had Steve Cunningham winning the fight. Of the 98 scores, 85 scored for Cunningham, 9 for Adamek and 4 a draw.
Now that i have watched the fight, i am in that vast majority that thought Cunningham won the fight. My scorecard of 116-113 (7-4-1 in rounds) is below. I cannot see how Adamek was given the decision. The only thing that could have happened is the flurries at the end of most rounds by Adamek must have fooled the judges into scoring the round for him. I'm sorry but fighting and landing only in the last 30-20 seconds of the round doesn't win you the fight especially when Cunningham was landing his jab followed by numerous right hand throughout the fight. Adamek merely followed Cunningham around for too much of the fight landing nothing of note. The rounds that Adamek won, it was clear that the Pole upped his work rate and actually matched his lighter opponent. The opening round was the only round where i scored a 10-10. It was a quiet round with the only scoring punches landed by the Cunningham jab. Adamek did land a few hooks in the last 20 seconds of the round. This is what swayed me to score 10-10, it was a quiet round where one flurry could alter the scoring of the round.
I will be writing one final article in 2012. The 3 worst decisions of the year. The Cunningham-Adamek fight will not be there. It came in a close 4th.
FIGHTSCORECOLLECTOR'S SCORECARD
Round 1.... 10-10 Draw
Round 2.... 10-9 Cunningham
Round 3.... 10-9 Cunningham
Round 4.... 10-9 Cunningham
Round 5.... 9-10 Adamek
Round 6.... 9-10 Adamek
Round 7.... 10-9 Cunningham
Round 8.... 10-9 Cunningham
Round 9.... 10-9 Cunningham
Round 10.. 10-9 Cunningham
Round 11.. 9-10 Adamek
Round 12.. 9-10 Adamek
Total : 116-113 Cunningham
Sunday, 23 December 2012
Adamek vs Cunningham 2 - Press and Fan Scores
Well I've been pulled away from my Xmas holidays by the fans of my site and asked to collect scores for the Adamek-Cunningham fight that took place on national TV over there in the States. NBC made a welcome return to the sport as Adamek and Cunningham fought for the second time.
Lets make one thing clear, I HAVE NOT watched the fight so i cant really pass judgement on it. What i will do is list all the fight scores from the Press and Fans as many are saying Cunningham did more than enough to win. Add in a scoring mistake which made the Press/Fans even more angrier.
Below are all the scores i collected, 98 in total.
Press Score Total - (23), Cunningham (20), Adamek (1), Draw (2)
Fans Score Total - (75), Cunningham (65), Adamek (8), Draw (2)
TOTAL - (98), CUNNINGHAM (85), ADAMEK (9), DRAW (4)
Actual Final Scorecards
Lowblowpodcast - 116-112 Cunningham
Tim Starks (Queensburyrules) 115-113 Cunningham
Kevin Iole (Yahoo.com) 115-113 Cunningham
Cliff Rold (Boxingscene.com) 117-111 Cunningham
Scott Christ (Badlefthook.com) 116-112 Cunningham
Eric Rakin (Ring Theory Podcast) 115-113 Cunningham
RingMagazine - 115-113 Cunningham
Pro-Boxingfans (Jake) 117-111 Cunningham
Harold Lederman (HBO) 115-113 **ADAMEK**
Dan Rafael (ESPN) 116-112 Cunningham
Lyle Fitzsimmons (Boxingscene.com) 114-114 **DRAW**
Boxingbet.PL 116-112 Cunningham
Tommy Allan (Boxingasylum.com) 116-112 Cunningham
Ryan Bivins (Sweetboxing) 118-111 Cunningham
Joel Sebastianelli (Leaveitinthering Radio) 114-114 **DRAW**
Jake Donovan (Boxingscene.com) 116-112 Cunningham
The Boxing Advocat - 115-113 Cunningham
ESPN.com - 115-113 Cunningham
John J Raspanti (Doghouseboxing.com) 115-114 Cunningham
The Boxing Tribune - 116-112 Cunningham
Phil D Jay (Worldboxingnews.net) 115-113 Cunningham
Jason Pribila (Secondsout.com) 115-113 Cunningham
Scott Shaffer (Boxingtalk.com) 115-113 Cunningham
Michael Woods (TheSweetScience.com) 115-113 Cunningham
Saddoboxing Forum (For Cunningham) 115-114, 115-113
( For Adamek) **115-113 x2, 117-112, 115-114**
Boxingasylum Forum (For Cunningham) 116-112 x3, **114-114 DRAW**
(For Adamek) **115-113**
Fighthype Forum - 116-114 Cunningham
Ringnews24 Forum - 116-112 Cunningham
Doghouseboxing Forum (For Cunningham) 115-113 x4, 118-110, 116-112, **114-114 DRAW**
Boxrec Forum (For Cunningham) 115-113 x4, 116-114, 116-112, 117-111
Eastsideboxing Forum (For Cunningham) 116-112 x11, 115-113 x8, 119-109 x2, 117-111 x2
117-113, 119-110,
(For Adamek) **115-113**
Checkhookboxing Forum (For Cunningham) 116-113 x2, 117-112, 116-112
The Boxing Palace Forum ( For Cunningham) 115-113 x2, 116-112
Boxingscene.com (For Cunningham) 117-111 x6, 116-112 x3, 118-110 x2, 115-113, 116-114
(For Adamek) **115-113 x2**
Well I've been pulled away from my Xmas holidays by the fans of my site and asked to collect scores for the Adamek-Cunningham fight that took place on national TV over there in the States. NBC made a welcome return to the sport as Adamek and Cunningham fought for the second time.
Lets make one thing clear, I HAVE NOT watched the fight so i cant really pass judgement on it. What i will do is list all the fight scores from the Press and Fans as many are saying Cunningham did more than enough to win. Add in a scoring mistake which made the Press/Fans even more angrier.
Below are all the scores i collected, 98 in total.
Press Score Total - (23), Cunningham (20), Adamek (1), Draw (2)
Fans Score Total - (75), Cunningham (65), Adamek (8), Draw (2)
TOTAL - (98), CUNNINGHAM (85), ADAMEK (9), DRAW (4)
Actual Final Scorecards
Lowblowpodcast - 116-112 Cunningham
Tim Starks (Queensburyrules) 115-113 Cunningham
Kevin Iole (Yahoo.com) 115-113 Cunningham
Cliff Rold (Boxingscene.com) 117-111 Cunningham
Scott Christ (Badlefthook.com) 116-112 Cunningham
Eric Rakin (Ring Theory Podcast) 115-113 Cunningham
RingMagazine - 115-113 Cunningham
Pro-Boxingfans (Jake) 117-111 Cunningham
Harold Lederman (HBO) 115-113 **ADAMEK**
Dan Rafael (ESPN) 116-112 Cunningham
Lyle Fitzsimmons (Boxingscene.com) 114-114 **DRAW**
Boxingbet.PL 116-112 Cunningham
Tommy Allan (Boxingasylum.com) 116-112 Cunningham
Ryan Bivins (Sweetboxing) 118-111 Cunningham
Joel Sebastianelli (Leaveitinthering Radio) 114-114 **DRAW**
Jake Donovan (Boxingscene.com) 116-112 Cunningham
The Boxing Advocat - 115-113 Cunningham
ESPN.com - 115-113 Cunningham
John J Raspanti (Doghouseboxing.com) 115-114 Cunningham
The Boxing Tribune - 116-112 Cunningham
Phil D Jay (Worldboxingnews.net) 115-113 Cunningham
Jason Pribila (Secondsout.com) 115-113 Cunningham
Scott Shaffer (Boxingtalk.com) 115-113 Cunningham
Michael Woods (TheSweetScience.com) 115-113 Cunningham
Saddoboxing Forum (For Cunningham) 115-114, 115-113
( For Adamek) **115-113 x2, 117-112, 115-114**
Boxingasylum Forum (For Cunningham) 116-112 x3, **114-114 DRAW**
(For Adamek) **115-113**
Fighthype Forum - 116-114 Cunningham
Ringnews24 Forum - 116-112 Cunningham
Doghouseboxing Forum (For Cunningham) 115-113 x4, 118-110, 116-112, **114-114 DRAW**
Boxrec Forum (For Cunningham) 115-113 x4, 116-114, 116-112, 117-111
Eastsideboxing Forum (For Cunningham) 116-112 x11, 115-113 x8, 119-109 x2, 117-111 x2
117-113, 119-110,
(For Adamek) **115-113**
Checkhookboxing Forum (For Cunningham) 116-113 x2, 117-112, 116-112
The Boxing Palace Forum ( For Cunningham) 115-113 x2, 116-112
Boxingscene.com (For Cunningham) 117-111 x6, 116-112 x3, 118-110 x2, 115-113, 116-114
(For Adamek) **115-113 x2**
Sunday, 9 December 2012
Marquez Bombs Out Paquiao In 6
Juan Manuel Marquez described it as the perfect punch. You will have to look very long and hard to find any boxing fan who will disagree with the Mexican warrior. That punch, a huge right hand planted Manny Pacquiao face first onto the canvas at 2.59 of the 6th round. The crowd went crazy. The many Mexicans in this pro Marquez crowd at the MGM Grand Las Vegas had waited 10 years for this moment as Marquez finally after four fights got his hand raised in victory.
During the 5th round it looked as if Pacquaio was on his way to registering another win over Juan Manuel. Fighting with a broken nose and blood all splattered over his face, Marquez was having his worst round of the fight as he was floored and beaten around the ring. Marquez might not have been able to continue much longer as he was finding it hard to breath through his nose. His only respite was pushing the gumshield out helping him breathe.
This was in no way one sided. Marquez was only slightly behind on all three judges cards (47-46). The Mexican had also scored a one punch knockdown in the 3rd as a well placed wide right hook caught the 8 division champion flush and sending his down hard..
Pacquiao was the aggressor as expected in this fight. From the first round he went after Marquez with more ferocity than he has shown in his last 3-4 fights. The straight left was landing as early as late in the first round. It was enough to win him the round. Marquez though remained calm. The usual slow starter Marquez exploded into life in the third when he landed that right hand. I also gave Marquez the fourth as he began to counter the on rushing Pacquiao with some nice right hands and left hooks to the body.
The fight took another twist in the fifth as a straight left from Pacquiao scored a flash knockdown. Marquez fought back hard but Pacquiao was all over him scoring with both hands. The fans again were going crazy as both men fought toe to toe at the bell. What a war.
Some KO's can be described as spectacular. I don't even think that word does the KO of Pacquiao justice. If you ever want to see a perfectly timed counter right hand then watch the fight AND watch Juan Manuel Marquez who Jim Lampley of HBO rightly recognised as "The best counter puncher in boxing". Who can disagree after that perfect punch??.
Marquez will now go on vacation with his family and enjoy the biggest win of his career. In his interview with Larry Merchant on HBO, Marquez was non committal on a Marquez-Pacquiao 5 fight. Quite right too. I'm sure if these guys ever fight again then Marquez will make more than he has ever done before. If I'm Juan Manuel then I'd start the bidding at $10m. This Mexican Legend has nothing to prove.
What now of the whirlwind Manny Pacquiao? I think he was fighting very well before the KO. In fact i think Manny was having his best performance since the pre Mosley days. One thing is for certain, Manny will fight on. This again was confirmed on HBO but whether its Marquez will be up to Bob Arum. Manny wants the fight and i think the fifth fight makes more money than any of the previous four. Manny Pacquiao is also a warrior. I'm sure he will want his revenge. I'm sure he will also want Marquez to give him the chance to do so as well. Remember Manny picked this fight, he didn't need to take it. I'm glad he did as boxing won tonight. What a war AND what a fighter JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ IS.
Below is my scorecard along with all the Press and fan scores from around the world.
Fightscorecollector's Scorecard
Round 1.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 2.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 3.... 8-10 Marquez
Round 4.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 5.... 10-9 Pacquiao
TOTAL : 47-46 Pacquiao at the time he was stopped by Marquez
Boxing Press and Fans Scores
Tom Gray - (secondsout.com) 47-46 Pacquiao
Tris Dixon - (boxingnews mag) 47-46 Pacquiao
Bernardo Osuna - (ESPN) 47-46 Pacquiao
Ben Weisman - (boxingasylum) 47-46 Pacquiao
Ryan Burton - (theboxinglab) *47-46 Marquez*
Pro-boxingfans Jake - 47-46 Pacquiao
Boxing Opinions - 47-46 Pacquiao
Eric Raskin (ring theory) 47-46 Pacquiao
Darren Velasco (fightdomain) 47-46 Pacquiao
LowBlowPodcast - 47-46 Pacquiao
Joel Sebastinelli - (leaveitinthering) 47-46 Pacquiao
Shaun Brown - (boxing-monthly mag) **47-47 Draw**
Scott Smith - (ukfighthype) 47-46 Pacquiao
Mark Ortega - (queensbury rules) 47-46 Pacquiao
Steve Kim - (maxboxing) 48-45 Pacquiao
Matthew Mojica - (Fightsource) 47-46 Pacquiao
Butch Doberman - (IBRO) 47-46 Pacquiao
Ryan Bivins - (sweetboxing) *47-46 Marquez*
Thecruelestsport - 47-46 Pacquiao
Scott Christ - (badlefthook) 47-46 Pacquiao
Dan Rafael - (ESPN) *47-46 Marquez*
Cheekhookboxing - 48-46 Pacquiao
Livefight - *47-46 Marquez*
Harold Ledeman - (HBO) 48-45 Pacquiao
Phil D Jay - (Worldboxingnews) 47-46 Pacquiao
George Jimenez - (noche de boxing) 47-46 Pacquiao
Cliff Roid - (boxingscene) 47-46 Pacquiao
Tim Starks - (queensburyrules) 47-46 Pacquiao
Luis Sandoval - (the boxing lab) 47-46 Pacquiao
Jake Donovan - (boxingscene) 47-46 Pacquiao
thaboxingvoice - 48-45 Pacquiao
Nigel Collins - (ESPN) 48-46 Pacquiao
Ray Markarian - (thesweetscience) 47-46 Pacquiao
Andy Paterson - (boxingasylum) 47-46 Pacquiao
John A McDonald - (thaboxingvoice) 47-46 Pacquiao
Paddy Cronan - (onthegrindboxing) 48-45 Pacquiao
Boxing.com - 48-45 Pacquiao
FightGhost - 47-46 Pacquiao
Rob Day - (Ringnews24) 48-45 Pacquiao
Ernest Gabion - (Theboxinglab) 48-45 Pacquiao
FighterRated - 48-45 Pacquiao
Alvaro Mendoza - (twitter fan) 47-46 Pacquiao
Cole Christensen - (twitter fan ) 48-45 Pacquiao
Pawel - (twitter fan) 47-46 Pacquiao
Per Plex - (twitter fan) 47-46 Pacquiao
Colin Hyndland - (twitter fan) 47-46 Pacquiao
Saddoboxing Forum - (All for Pac) 48-45 x4, 47-46x2, 48-46
BoxingAsylum Forum - (All for Pac) 47-46x3 , 48-45
Livefight Forum - (All for Pac) 47-46 x5 , **47-47 draw**
Fighthype Forum - (All for Pac) 47-46x2
Doghouseboxing Forum - (All for Pac) 48-47x2 , 48-45
Thesweetscience Forum - 48-46 Pacquiao
Ringnews24 Forum - (All for Pac) 48-45x2 , 47-46
Boxrec Forum - (All for Pac) 48-45x4, 47-46x3, 48-46, **47-46 MARQUEZ**
Eastsideboxing Foum - (All for Pac) 47-46x16, 48-45x8, 48-46, **47-46, 48-47 MARQUEZ**
Checkookboxing Forum - (All for Pac) 47-46, 48-46, 48-45
Boxingscene Forum - (All for Pac) 47-46x10, 48-45x5, **47-46x2, MARQUEZ** , 47-47 Draw
BoxingPalace Forum - (All for Pac) 47-46x2, 48-45x2
FightJudge Forum - (All for Pac) 47-46x7, 48-45x3, 48-46x2 **47-46x2, 47-45 MARQUEZ**
Juan Manuel Marquez described it as the perfect punch. You will have to look very long and hard to find any boxing fan who will disagree with the Mexican warrior. That punch, a huge right hand planted Manny Pacquiao face first onto the canvas at 2.59 of the 6th round. The crowd went crazy. The many Mexicans in this pro Marquez crowd at the MGM Grand Las Vegas had waited 10 years for this moment as Marquez finally after four fights got his hand raised in victory.
During the 5th round it looked as if Pacquaio was on his way to registering another win over Juan Manuel. Fighting with a broken nose and blood all splattered over his face, Marquez was having his worst round of the fight as he was floored and beaten around the ring. Marquez might not have been able to continue much longer as he was finding it hard to breath through his nose. His only respite was pushing the gumshield out helping him breathe.
This was in no way one sided. Marquez was only slightly behind on all three judges cards (47-46). The Mexican had also scored a one punch knockdown in the 3rd as a well placed wide right hook caught the 8 division champion flush and sending his down hard..
Pacquiao was the aggressor as expected in this fight. From the first round he went after Marquez with more ferocity than he has shown in his last 3-4 fights. The straight left was landing as early as late in the first round. It was enough to win him the round. Marquez though remained calm. The usual slow starter Marquez exploded into life in the third when he landed that right hand. I also gave Marquez the fourth as he began to counter the on rushing Pacquiao with some nice right hands and left hooks to the body.
The fight took another twist in the fifth as a straight left from Pacquiao scored a flash knockdown. Marquez fought back hard but Pacquiao was all over him scoring with both hands. The fans again were going crazy as both men fought toe to toe at the bell. What a war.
Some KO's can be described as spectacular. I don't even think that word does the KO of Pacquiao justice. If you ever want to see a perfectly timed counter right hand then watch the fight AND watch Juan Manuel Marquez who Jim Lampley of HBO rightly recognised as "The best counter puncher in boxing". Who can disagree after that perfect punch??.
Marquez will now go on vacation with his family and enjoy the biggest win of his career. In his interview with Larry Merchant on HBO, Marquez was non committal on a Marquez-Pacquiao 5 fight. Quite right too. I'm sure if these guys ever fight again then Marquez will make more than he has ever done before. If I'm Juan Manuel then I'd start the bidding at $10m. This Mexican Legend has nothing to prove.
What now of the whirlwind Manny Pacquiao? I think he was fighting very well before the KO. In fact i think Manny was having his best performance since the pre Mosley days. One thing is for certain, Manny will fight on. This again was confirmed on HBO but whether its Marquez will be up to Bob Arum. Manny wants the fight and i think the fifth fight makes more money than any of the previous four. Manny Pacquiao is also a warrior. I'm sure he will want his revenge. I'm sure he will also want Marquez to give him the chance to do so as well. Remember Manny picked this fight, he didn't need to take it. I'm glad he did as boxing won tonight. What a war AND what a fighter JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ IS.
Below is my scorecard along with all the Press and fan scores from around the world.
Fightscorecollector's Scorecard
Round 1.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 2.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 3.... 8-10 Marquez
Round 4.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 5.... 10-9 Pacquiao
TOTAL : 47-46 Pacquiao at the time he was stopped by Marquez
Boxing Press and Fans Scores
Tom Gray - (secondsout.com) 47-46 Pacquiao
Tris Dixon - (boxingnews mag) 47-46 Pacquiao
Bernardo Osuna - (ESPN) 47-46 Pacquiao
Ben Weisman - (boxingasylum) 47-46 Pacquiao
Ryan Burton - (theboxinglab) *47-46 Marquez*
Pro-boxingfans Jake - 47-46 Pacquiao
Boxing Opinions - 47-46 Pacquiao
Eric Raskin (ring theory) 47-46 Pacquiao
Darren Velasco (fightdomain) 47-46 Pacquiao
LowBlowPodcast - 47-46 Pacquiao
Joel Sebastinelli - (leaveitinthering) 47-46 Pacquiao
Shaun Brown - (boxing-monthly mag) **47-47 Draw**
Scott Smith - (ukfighthype) 47-46 Pacquiao
Mark Ortega - (queensbury rules) 47-46 Pacquiao
Steve Kim - (maxboxing) 48-45 Pacquiao
Matthew Mojica - (Fightsource) 47-46 Pacquiao
Butch Doberman - (IBRO) 47-46 Pacquiao
Ryan Bivins - (sweetboxing) *47-46 Marquez*
Thecruelestsport - 47-46 Pacquiao
Scott Christ - (badlefthook) 47-46 Pacquiao
Dan Rafael - (ESPN) *47-46 Marquez*
Cheekhookboxing - 48-46 Pacquiao
Livefight - *47-46 Marquez*
Harold Ledeman - (HBO) 48-45 Pacquiao
Phil D Jay - (Worldboxingnews) 47-46 Pacquiao
George Jimenez - (noche de boxing) 47-46 Pacquiao
Cliff Roid - (boxingscene) 47-46 Pacquiao
Tim Starks - (queensburyrules) 47-46 Pacquiao
Luis Sandoval - (the boxing lab) 47-46 Pacquiao
Jake Donovan - (boxingscene) 47-46 Pacquiao
thaboxingvoice - 48-45 Pacquiao
Nigel Collins - (ESPN) 48-46 Pacquiao
Ray Markarian - (thesweetscience) 47-46 Pacquiao
Andy Paterson - (boxingasylum) 47-46 Pacquiao
John A McDonald - (thaboxingvoice) 47-46 Pacquiao
Paddy Cronan - (onthegrindboxing) 48-45 Pacquiao
Boxing.com - 48-45 Pacquiao
FightGhost - 47-46 Pacquiao
Rob Day - (Ringnews24) 48-45 Pacquiao
Ernest Gabion - (Theboxinglab) 48-45 Pacquiao
FighterRated - 48-45 Pacquiao
Alvaro Mendoza - (twitter fan) 47-46 Pacquiao
Cole Christensen - (twitter fan ) 48-45 Pacquiao
Pawel - (twitter fan) 47-46 Pacquiao
Per Plex - (twitter fan) 47-46 Pacquiao
Colin Hyndland - (twitter fan) 47-46 Pacquiao
Saddoboxing Forum - (All for Pac) 48-45 x4, 47-46x2, 48-46
BoxingAsylum Forum - (All for Pac) 47-46x3 , 48-45
Livefight Forum - (All for Pac) 47-46 x5 , **47-47 draw**
Fighthype Forum - (All for Pac) 47-46x2
Doghouseboxing Forum - (All for Pac) 48-47x2 , 48-45
Thesweetscience Forum - 48-46 Pacquiao
Ringnews24 Forum - (All for Pac) 48-45x2 , 47-46
Boxrec Forum - (All for Pac) 48-45x4, 47-46x3, 48-46, **47-46 MARQUEZ**
Eastsideboxing Foum - (All for Pac) 47-46x16, 48-45x8, 48-46, **47-46, 48-47 MARQUEZ**
Checkookboxing Forum - (All for Pac) 47-46, 48-46, 48-45
Boxingscene Forum - (All for Pac) 47-46x10, 48-45x5, **47-46x2, MARQUEZ** , 47-47 Draw
BoxingPalace Forum - (All for Pac) 47-46x2, 48-45x2
FightJudge Forum - (All for Pac) 47-46x7, 48-45x3, 48-46x2 **47-46x2, 47-45 MARQUEZ**
Thursday, 6 December 2012
Fightscorecollector's December Fight List
For the final month of a great boxing year, i will only be covering 3 fights. All of these fights will include Filipino boxers Pacquiao, Ocampo and Donaire. On Dec 8th in Vegas Pacquiao meets arch nemesis Juan Manuel Marquez then a week later huge underdog Jose Ocampo travels to London to try and wrestle the WBO 135 Title from Scotland's Ricky Burns. Later that night Nonito Donaire makes another defence of his 122lb WBO title against Mexican warrior Jorge Acre. This fight will take place in the great State of Texas at the Toyota Centre.
Sat 8th - (HBO) - Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez :12 Rounds Special Event
Sat 15th - (Boxnation) - Ricky Burns vs Jose Ocampo : WBO Lightweight Title
Sat 15th - (HBO) - Nonito Donaire vs Jorge Acre :WBO Super-Bantam Title
For the final month of a great boxing year, i will only be covering 3 fights. All of these fights will include Filipino boxers Pacquiao, Ocampo and Donaire. On Dec 8th in Vegas Pacquiao meets arch nemesis Juan Manuel Marquez then a week later huge underdog Jose Ocampo travels to London to try and wrestle the WBO 135 Title from Scotland's Ricky Burns. Later that night Nonito Donaire makes another defence of his 122lb WBO title against Mexican warrior Jorge Acre. This fight will take place in the great State of Texas at the Toyota Centre.
Sat 8th - (HBO) - Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez :12 Rounds Special Event
Sat 15th - (Boxnation) - Ricky Burns vs Jose Ocampo : WBO Lightweight Title
Sat 15th - (HBO) - Nonito Donaire vs Jorge Acre :WBO Super-Bantam Title
Monday, 3 December 2012
Pacquaio vs Marquez 1,2,3 Scored and Stats
Since i started my fightscorecollector site, i have been asked 1 question the most, "how did you score the 3 Pacquiao vs Marquez fights?". It has been a while since i have watched all 3, in fact i have only watched the 3rd fight once and that was on a stream that wasn't the best. My response has always been that i have scored all 3 fights to Pacquiao. Going by memory i had the 1st 115-112 Pacquiao, the 2nd 114-113 Pacquiao and the 3rd 115-114 Pacquiao.
Well tonight in preparation for an overtime night shift on Tuesday which entails changing your body cock around twice in 24hrs, i thought lets do it, lets watch and score the 3 fights again. To my surprise i had Marquez winning one of the fights. The 2nd fight. What didn't surprise me was just how close each fight was. The stats i have for MY SCORING show that the 4th fight in my opinion will be EASILY as close. Nothing really has changed. Both fighters definitely showed signs of decline in the 3rd fight. Their punch average and overall fight was nowhere as good as the previous 2. Pacquiao-Marquez 4 will surely be closure on this fight series. I applaud Pacquiao for taking this match as Marquez without a doubt has given him his hardest fights in the last 8-10 years. Pacquiao could have fought Bradley again but wanted the decisive win against his very own Ken Norton.
Before you view my scorecards below here are the stats i mentioned above on how i scored the fight.
1. Total Rounds each fighter has won..... Pacquiao 16 , Marquez 18 , 2 draw
2. Total points accumulation in 3 fights...Pacquiao 342, Marquez 340
There is only a 2 point difference in 3 fights. That's why i cant understand why some Press but loads of fans think Pacquiao will win this fight by a much wider margin. Pacquiao has lost some of his leg speed so he cant close the distance as fast as he used to. This should help Marquez as he will look to counter for most of the fight. My problem with Marquez is his punch output. Yes he is accurate but in all 3 fights he hasn't matched the output by Pacquiao. Saying that in his last few fights Pacquiao's output has dropped BIG.
Who wins??? - if a gun was to my head id say Pacquiao in another very close points win although i wouldn't be surprised if history repeats itself and goes against Pacquiao just like what happened vs Bradley.
Below is my 3 scorecards for the Pacquiao-Marquez Trilogy
Fight 1
Round 1.... 10-6 Pacquiao
Round 2.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 3.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 4.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 5.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 6.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 7.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 8.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 9.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 10.. 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 11.. 9-10 Marquez
Round 12.. 10-10 Draw
TOTAL : 114-112 PACQUIAO
Fight 2
Round 1.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 2.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 3.... 10-8 Pacquiao
Round 4.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 5.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 6.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 7.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 8.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 9.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 10.. 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 11.. 9-10 Marquez
Round 12.. 9-10 Marquez
TOTAL : 114-113 MARQUEZ
Fight 3
Round 1.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 2.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 3.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 4.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 5.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 6.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 7.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 8.... 10-10 Draw
Round 9.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 10.. 9-10 Marquez
Round 11.. 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 12.. 10-9 Pacquiao
TOTAL : 115-114 PACQUIAO
**ANY COMMENTS ARE MOST WELCOME ON MY TWITTER @THEFIGHTSCORE**
Since i started my fightscorecollector site, i have been asked 1 question the most, "how did you score the 3 Pacquiao vs Marquez fights?". It has been a while since i have watched all 3, in fact i have only watched the 3rd fight once and that was on a stream that wasn't the best. My response has always been that i have scored all 3 fights to Pacquiao. Going by memory i had the 1st 115-112 Pacquiao, the 2nd 114-113 Pacquiao and the 3rd 115-114 Pacquiao.
Well tonight in preparation for an overtime night shift on Tuesday which entails changing your body cock around twice in 24hrs, i thought lets do it, lets watch and score the 3 fights again. To my surprise i had Marquez winning one of the fights. The 2nd fight. What didn't surprise me was just how close each fight was. The stats i have for MY SCORING show that the 4th fight in my opinion will be EASILY as close. Nothing really has changed. Both fighters definitely showed signs of decline in the 3rd fight. Their punch average and overall fight was nowhere as good as the previous 2. Pacquiao-Marquez 4 will surely be closure on this fight series. I applaud Pacquiao for taking this match as Marquez without a doubt has given him his hardest fights in the last 8-10 years. Pacquiao could have fought Bradley again but wanted the decisive win against his very own Ken Norton.
Before you view my scorecards below here are the stats i mentioned above on how i scored the fight.
1. Total Rounds each fighter has won..... Pacquiao 16 , Marquez 18 , 2 draw
2. Total points accumulation in 3 fights...Pacquiao 342, Marquez 340
There is only a 2 point difference in 3 fights. That's why i cant understand why some Press but loads of fans think Pacquiao will win this fight by a much wider margin. Pacquiao has lost some of his leg speed so he cant close the distance as fast as he used to. This should help Marquez as he will look to counter for most of the fight. My problem with Marquez is his punch output. Yes he is accurate but in all 3 fights he hasn't matched the output by Pacquiao. Saying that in his last few fights Pacquiao's output has dropped BIG.
Who wins??? - if a gun was to my head id say Pacquiao in another very close points win although i wouldn't be surprised if history repeats itself and goes against Pacquiao just like what happened vs Bradley.
Below is my 3 scorecards for the Pacquiao-Marquez Trilogy
Fight 1
Round 1.... 10-6 Pacquiao
Round 2.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 3.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 4.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 5.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 6.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 7.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 8.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 9.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 10.. 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 11.. 9-10 Marquez
Round 12.. 10-10 Draw
TOTAL : 114-112 PACQUIAO
Fight 2
Round 1.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 2.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 3.... 10-8 Pacquiao
Round 4.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 5.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 6.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 7.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 8.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 9.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 10.. 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 11.. 9-10 Marquez
Round 12.. 9-10 Marquez
TOTAL : 114-113 MARQUEZ
Fight 3
Round 1.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 2.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 3.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 4.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 5.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 6.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 7.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 8.... 10-10 Draw
Round 9.... 9-10 Marquez
Round 10.. 9-10 Marquez
Round 11.. 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 12.. 10-9 Pacquiao
TOTAL : 115-114 PACQUIAO
**ANY COMMENTS ARE MOST WELCOME ON MY TWITTER @THEFIGHTSCORE**
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